Title: Joe' habit
future - May 22, 2005 02:36 PM (GMT)
I have seen many times in which joe does this very quick 3 note thingy , for example at the beginning of the G3 in denver DVD. He does it everytime and very very quickly and also for the outro of starry night.
Can anyone tab out and give an example? I think its a great exercise in building some finger speed.
future - May 22, 2005 03:00 PM (GMT)
Ok it sounds like that on 3:25 of searching from ITLIS.
Eric - May 22, 2005 03:01 PM (GMT)
you mean something like this:
| CODE |
E|--------8---------8---------8---| B|-11b13----8-11b13---8-11b13-----|
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This lick is used in starry night... enjoy!
future - May 22, 2005 03:03 PM (GMT)
Ahh i think so...i only have a classical guitar here...so i guess when i get my tele i can try it very very fast.
Eric - May 23, 2005 05:33 PM (GMT)
you should use a program called 'Guitar Pro 4' , you can find tabs @ www.mysongbook.com, a huge database with a lot of Satch tabs!!! Just try that, then you can start learning those licks
btw, you can start with tears of the rain with you classical guitar! :D
deloosem - May 24, 2005 09:43 PM (GMT)
That lick is a Hendrix thing...he picked up along the way...
future - May 25, 2005 05:12 AM (GMT)
O really didn't know that.
Eric - May 25, 2005 06:41 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (deloosem @ May 24 2005, 11:43 PM) |
| That lick is a Hendrix thing...he picked up along the way... |
I really like those pentatonic-like licks, just like the A train of angels solo :wub:
:beer3:
ibanick - May 28, 2005 10:03 PM (GMT)
Hi
this lick is a pentatonic classic. Joe actually does it in many variations on almost every solo he plays in his songs. It's not fair to say it's a Hendrix thing cause blues players were doing it before him. But Hendrix gave it volume with his heavy performing. SRV also did it a lot and with 0.13 gauge strings he used it sounded like machinegun.
Ibanick
future - June 11, 2005 09:22 AM (GMT)
Any have a close up home video of how to do the lick like satch? i can't seem to get that sound. Seems kinda tough for me..i don't hold on the 2 8 frets...so i bend hit the note , hit the other note and bend again.
future - January 23, 2006 09:12 AM (GMT)
ok i just realised that Joe manages to kinda of like catch the 3rd note so quickly , is there any left hand muting technique involved?
Sibanez - January 23, 2006 01:59 PM (GMT)
Joe uses another lick more often than that one (well it seems like he uses it more often)
E --9--------------------------------
B ------12 (P.O) 9 -----------------
G --------------------11 (full bend)-
For the G3 in Denver intro Joe plays it in 5th position and starts with the bend. Something like this:

To get it really fast I find you have to use a very small sweep as opposed to alternate picking. Your picking should be down, down, pull-off, down. It's not too tough to finish with an upstroke actually so do whatever you find works best.
I've not really been able to work much of this amazing intro solo out but here are a couple more licks from it. If anyone can contribute to this it would be HUGELY appreciated! I hope this helps Future.

future - January 23, 2006 02:17 PM (GMT)
Ahh yes i think this it. But when i try to bend and let go , it seems uncough , like just twang!!!!!! thats the reason why i was asking if he mutes it. Or does Joe play it so fast that his fingers actually catch the string before it even snaps back into positon
wetpants - January 24, 2006 05:15 AM (GMT)
remember, Joe uses a lot of hammer-ons-from-nowhere in his legato technique, and he uses them quite a bit for those slurred blues licks as well...eg, that first lick Sibanez posted, HOFN on the B string...Cheers.
sKiTzo - January 25, 2006 04:16 AM (GMT)
Oh I know what you're talking about! That lick is actually a rock- blues standard used by everyone from Lynyrd Skynyrd and ZZ Top to Frank Marino and Mathias Jabs. Michael Schenker is a heavy purveyor of that lick as is evident on "Lights Out" (more notably on the live version from "Strangers in the night" towards the beginning of the second solo) and I use it myself all the time. It is very much a standard. In fact Schenker probably does it faster in live version of Lights Out" than Joe does at the beginning of G3 Denver. This is not to imply that Joe is incapable of doing it that fast because he certainly is not, I'm just saying he doesn't do it that fast in that particular segment. It is a fun lick though and once you get it down you'll find it a useful part of your arsenal. As far as muffling is concerned, I think it's subconscious in that you just do it. In other words, I've found that when asked that question do I muffle this or that, I didn't really know so I would do whatever it was but slowed down or whatever taking note this time on HOW I was doing it, I'd find that yes, I muffle things all the time but I never CONSCIOUSLY did it. Therefore it must be a natural phenomenon that you just KNOW to do. So if you have to think about muffling, try just playing the lick or chord and you may find yourself muffling unwanted strings without even realizing it! Like do a regular 3-finger C chord. Now look at your ring-third finger as it muffles the bottom string and you didn't even know it! Anyone know what I mean?