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Title: Always With Me, Always With You.


Johnljones7443 - April 29, 2006 12:54 AM (GMT)
Hello.

So, I've been a guitarist for 8 years, playing on and off, at gigs, at weddings and at bars. Mainly playing blues, jazz and funk. I recently got into the weird and wonderful shred and instrumental scene (Satch, Vai, Petrucci, Friedman and guitarists such as thus), and I love it.

Being a 'veteran' in the sense my ears have adapated, I'm rather picky as to which tabs I use, and through searching and trying different versions of the song 'Always with me, always with you', I can't seem to find a suitable tab; one which sounds exactly as it should do.

So, I'm asking you guys, as this is a Satriani fan forum, and I assumed many of you would have covered and attempted to play this song, lol, if you could refer me to the tab you think/know is correct.

Thanks, John.

wetpants - April 29, 2006 01:19 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Johnljones7443 @ Apr 29 2006, 12:54 AM)
Hello.

So, I've been a guitarist for 8 years, playing on and off, at gigs, at weddings and at bars. Mainly playing blues, jazz and funk. I recently got into the weird and wonderful shred and instrumental scene (Satch, Vai, Petrucci, Friedman and guitarists such as thus), and I love it.

Being a 'veteran' in the sense my ears have adapated, I'm rather picky as to which tabs I use, and through searching and trying different versions of the song 'Always with me, always with you', I can't seem to find a suitable tab; one which sounds exactly as it should do.

So, I'm asking you guys, as this is a Satriani fan forum, and I assumed many of you would have covered and attempted to play this song, lol, if you could refer me to the tab you think/know is correct.

Thanks, John.

IMHO, if you consider yourself a 'veteran', then you shouldn't need tabs...Do what I did when I was starting to learn shred songs...(or not)..find a tab of the song, whether it's accurate or not, and use your ear to perfect the song to your own interpretation, because how someone else hears the song may be completely different from the way you hear the song with regards to phrasing and dynamics etc etc...You will have a much easier time developing into a 'shred veteran' if you use your ears more than using tabs.
Use tabs as a reference when you are learning, but you should eventually try to break away from using them all together. It will do wonders for your musicianship... ;)

PhryDom - April 29, 2006 02:05 AM (GMT)
joe himself said the best instructional video / dvd he could offer people is a live one - check out the LISF DVD and you should be good to go! :)

wetpants - April 29, 2006 03:14 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (PhryDom @ Apr 29 2006, 02:05 AM)
joe himself said the best instructional video / dvd he could offer people is a live one - check out the LISF DVD and you should be good to go! :)

Speaking of my favourite/most played DVD: What did you get out of it personally Phrydom? If you don't mind me asking... B)

mode_twister - April 29, 2006 03:26 AM (GMT)

motionblur - April 29, 2006 05:43 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Johnljones7443 @ Apr 28 2006, 08:54 PM)
Hello.

So, I've been a guitarist for 8 years, playing on and off, at gigs, at weddings and at bars. Mainly playing blues, jazz and funk. I recently got into the weird and wonderful shred and instrumental scene (Satch, Vai, Petrucci, Friedman and guitarists such as thus), and I love it.

Being a 'veteran' in the sense my ears have adapated, I'm rather picky as to which tabs I use, and through searching and trying different versions of the song 'Always with me, always with you', I can't seem to find a suitable tab; one which sounds exactly as it should do.

So, I'm asking you guys, as this is a Satriani fan forum, and I assumed many of you would have covered and attempted to play this song, lol, if you could refer me to the tab you think/know is correct.

Thanks, John.

This is the best reference: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/089524414...glance&n=283155

AWM,AWY was transcribed by either Andy Aledort or Wolf Marshall, two of the best at transcriptions.

PhryDom - April 29, 2006 03:38 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (wetpants @ Apr 28 2006, 10:14 PM)
If you don't mind me asking... B)

Not at all!

I loved it, well for the first 300 plays :lol:

I've made it a kind of personal rule that I don't learn other people's material. I'm afraid that if I know how to play a track that's special to me I'll lose some of the magic of just plain listening to it. Does that make sense?

Naturally in the early days I learned tons of stuff by ear (my "best" two weeks was transcribing all of Van Halen 2 - man I had so much free time back then! :lol:).

And back to Joe DVDs - I'm hoping for another one soon!

Onkel Cannabia - April 30, 2006 11:49 AM (GMT)
QUOTE
'm afraid that if I know how to play a track that's special to me I'll lose some of the magic of just plain listening to it. Does that make sense?


Totally. I've you know every single note from a song by heart it just sounds diffrent. kinda looses it's magic. I used to really like "In Memoriam" from Hammerfall - simple but beautiful. But after I tabbed it out (and like 20 suckers copied it and postet it under their name :angry: ( If u wanna spread tabs - great. But don't spread them under your name if u didnt put any work in it)) it sounded pretty much boring

Drew - May 1, 2006 06:57 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (PhryDom @ Apr 29 2006, 03:38 PM)
I've made it a kind of personal rule that I don't learn other people's material. I'm afraid that if I know how to play a track that's special to me I'll lose some of the magic of just plain listening to it. Does that make sense?

I used to feel that way, Phryg... I was blown away by Jimi's "Midnight Lightning" when South Saturn Delta first came out, and since there weren't any tabs available, I spent a couple hours sitting down with a notebook working it out. A few hours turned into a few days, but finally I got a tab together up until he went into the fingerstyle solo that I felt pretty confident about - the notes sounded right, and I felt pretty good about the fingerings too. Apparently, I dropped one repeat when I typed it up, lol (a guy in germany and I started revising and trying to finish it 6 months later - I don't know if he ever did, but if you've ever seen a tab for this that ended right at the solo, then it was my work), but I was quite proud of the final product.

However, for a couple years after that, I had trouble listening to the song - it lost some of it's magic for me, simply because I knew it inside out, after spending those hours listening to the nuances and trying to recreate them.

Five or so years down the road, I feel differently - it's like hearing an old, familiar friend whenever I hear that song. I don't know if i could play it note for note these days, but I can improvise something similar now, and it's made a huge impact on my own solo fingerstyle blues stylings. It was an intensely rewarding experience for me that to this day still bears fruit.

I guess it must be like this to be married - to know someone so well that there's no surprise or element of the unexpected left, but rather just comfort in the other's presence...




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