http://www.woot.com/special.aspx?k=vipzuneThis url was passed around to Woot employees' families and friends. It's for a refurbished model, but comes with a full warranty. The firmware is upgradeable for free, and includes all of the features of the new Zune 2. I just picked one up myself. Worst case, if you don't like it, you can most likely sell it for a profit on eBay, at least for the time being...