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I suppose you just get more time to think when you slow down when you go fast although theres no doubt joe likes to mix the fast bits up... Ive noticed Joe does this ALOT! he really enjoys going off am jamming.. when you see him live he makes 3 minute songs like 3-4 times that.

i think it's true what sukutsu sais, but i think that joe varies the fast parst too. Also the fast links in AWMAWY.

But I think it's a good thing. As Queen has always said: the fans can listen to their records at home, we want to give them something unique! :)

I suppose its true what they said but I must admit Im one of the people who goes to hear the album version.. I just like hearing it live it sounds so raw its lovely.. I love little changes in there that make it unique and Joe certainly does them but I must admit when Joe done a 10min jam when I saw him a G3 my mind did wonder theres nothin like a jam when your the one jammin but for the audience I find it gets a little boring after so long.

You think so? Last time I saw Joe, I was absolutely floored by the extended jam on "Always..." High point of the show, for me. when he broke into double time on the little "Rubina's Blue Sky Happiness" tag he's been ending that one with, there was this build in entensity, and I started thinking, "Man, I wish he'd jam that section out a bit..." Then, the bass comes back in, the drums came in, and the next three minutes were just magical, some of the best improv playing I've ever heard from Joe.

The alternate intro to Cool #9 off the first G3 owns, too, IMO...

-D

Agree. I see the little improv "jams" when he (or other artists) play live as small gems that you get for free along with all the dear songs we love to hear.

A good artist almost always gives good improv-sections. I love it :D

I really love it that Joe doesn't play EVERY piece the same! Steve Lukather plays always his guitarsolo's in songs different. Also on albums he plays what is coming up in his head... I really admire him therefore. (Except for the really standards on, for example, Rosanna)

I wouldn't say he has trouble remembering it, it's probably more likely that after almost 20 years of playing that same song at EVERY show he's just trying to make it fun for himself and not so monotonous. He's just stirring the pot, so to speak.

For the faster runs, those are a little harder to get tired of because they keep your hands quite busy and many times there's not much you can vary with them without knocking the entire solo out of whack. But if you notice, when Joe CAN change it up...he will. LOL

Basically, for the faster parts there's not a lot of time for Joe to dwell on what he could do with the notes while with slower sections he has plenty of time for inspiration to hit. :)

I love it when artists improv because it's never been done it's not like it's the same 2 times, samething goes for any other band/artist not just Joe improv is just that good shit when you go to a show and walk out thinking "Damn he'll only play that part just like that 1 time and I was there."

like he always says only remember how the tune roughly goes and decide how to play it just before the show

i think it's cool. IMO music is an art, and each performance is a work of art. and so improvisation is the pinnacle of achievement which combines the elements of performance and composition simultaneously in the creation of a new work of art. just think Hendrix and how he could create for the same song a completely different feeling each time.

i do like the improv sections in alot of songs when it comes to live versions.... Dream theater are real teasers when it comes to that... they are amaZing at this improv stuff...

i remember when i went to that satch concert he played AWMAWY all the way through till the last note which i was waiting for.... but then he didnt play it and started an improv section and led into another song(which apparently i thought was still the improv section and i was like "WWWWWWWWHHHHHHHHHHOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAA!!!!!")....

its good stuff.... i think its brilliant for artists to play songs differently at live shows....

you would be surprised how much stuff Joe and all guitar players forget....may times you have relearn the songs you write...it just the way the mind works.....but also it takes a pro to attack a part of a song you forget by using your ear and throwing your memory away...most likely in Joes case it will sound better but impovised.....its actully an art to use written improvisation sections in a song...like the doors and led zeppelin.....makes awesome live recordings

Joe has said too that he doesn't want to recreate the album sound, he tries to create a special moment for the crowd. Honestly, I would rather hear the improv stuff, because I can take my cds out and listen to the album whenever I want, however...I can't just call Joe up to come over and improv a song for me whenever I want. I can appreciate the creativity of something new. I remember how floored I was when I heard AWMAWY for the first few times, it was such a great tune! I had the same feeling when I saw Joe do an improv following that song live. He easily spent 3-4 minutes on just the improv. It was just amazing how the same song could amaze me twice...especially when the 2nd half of it wasn't a studio cut. Cool #9 and Searching were also great improv songs. So don't get too hard on Joe for "forgetting" how to play his songs, he is just trying to create a special moment for you the listener.